It’s been a tumultuous 24 hours in the podcast business!
First, late yesterday afternoon, our own Nick Quah broke via his newsletter the news that Panoply — the Slate-born podcast network that had been tightly connected with the newsier, more public-radio-y end of that business — was getting out of the content business altogether.
Several sources in the company inform me that, earlier this afternoon, the company internally announced that it will no longer be developing new podcasts and that it will be letting go of its entire editorial staff. I’m told that the layoffs are effective starting the end of the month.
The company also announced that it will now shift its operational focus to the Megaphone targeted marketing platform — that is, Panoply’s podcast hosting, analytics, and monetization technology, which it acquired in the summer of 2015 and, more recently, forged a partnership with Nielsen to build a marketplace for targeted podcast ads…
Prior to this point, Panoply, a sister company of Slate, was your standard end-to-end podcast company. It produced original shows (like The Message, Empire of Blood, Family Ghosts, and By the Book) and handled ad sales for a portfolio of podcasts. It also helped produce and monetize existing shows like You Must Remember This. In its earlier days, the company pursued a content strategy that heavily involved production partnerships with external publications like Politico and Tablet Magazine, and has since shifted to focus more on original programming.
Panoply had not been known as, well, one of the more stable podcast companies, but the move was pretty shocking given that it was busy announcing its new fall show lineup just a week ago:
We're proud to announce our fall line up at @iab #PodcastUpfront! This November, gear up for #BrokenRecord, a music show helmed by @Gladwell, and #PassengerList, a suspense thriller with writing by @laurenshippen and @MaraWilson starring #KellyMarieTran. pic.twitter.com/o3EZI1ZyHw
— Panoply (@Panoply) September 6, 2018
After Nick’s story went out, Panoply CEO Brendan Monaghan got back to him with a comment:
After much consideration, Panoply has decided to focus solely on our growing podcast hosting and ad services business, and exit the podcast content business. Our editorial staff was notified of the change today. They are an amazingly talented and creative group of people, and we will miss working with them.
Happily, some of Panoply’s producers and shows will be moving to our sister company Slate. The last day for most staff editorial staff members will be Sep. 28, although some will continue working on projects for a limited time after that…
Our main goal in this reorganization is to reinforce Megaphone’s position as the clear leader in podcasting technology and advertising services, and every person at the company will be laser focused on creating tools to help podcasters thrive.
I’m privy to no particular insight on Panoply, and I never like it when anyone gets out of the content business. But in any young industry there are significant opportunities to be had at the infrastructure-building, tool-providing level, and apparently Panoply thought its offerings were more differentiated there than in the hit-or-miss original content game. That doesn’t do much for the people and shows affected by the move, of course:
Hey friends, our podcast network Panoply is shutting down content + ad sales so this is a scary time for us at Harry Potter and the Sacred Text. If you can send us some love or a small donation, we'd be so glad as we figure out how to weather this storm x https://t.co/PabrU1K202 https://t.co/cXHY0dRI1t
— HPandtheSacredText (@hpsacredtext) September 12, 2018
We can't believe how fast we hit our goal of $1k/month to keep HPST alive through OoP. TY! When we did, Patreon showed our goal of $8,000/month to make HBP happen. Some kindly emailed us why? Thank you for that great question, and here is our honest reply: https://t.co/bgSZGonbcK
— HPandtheSacredText (@hpsacredtext) September 13, 2018
Thinking of all my @Panoply friends today especially the delightful @kristenmeinzer & @JolentaG. Raw deal for all involved. If anyone wants to talk about how to handle the collapse of your show, hmu. I know a thing or two about that.
— Lauren Ober (@OberandOut) September 13, 2018
Hey everyone we’re suprised to hear that @Panoply is closing podcast operations. Don’t worry @SwitchedOnPop is not going anywhere! The show is doing better than ever—big announcements coming soon. And we’re already working on finding a new home to break down pop with all of you.
— Switched On Pop 🎶 (@SwitchedOnPop) September 13, 2018
Yeah this was super upsetting to find out without any foresight. The show is doing better than ever, so we will absolutely continue. We just need to find a new home.
— Switched On Pop 🎶 (@SwitchedOnPop) September 13, 2018
@RememberThisPod reading abt @Panoply and fearing the worst. Tell me how to send you money to keep the podcast going
— Annie Corrigan (@oboeontheradio) September 13, 2018
Panoply is closing down content and apparently won't be selling ads for their existing podcasts anymore. If you have inside info on that, Joseph is a great person to talk to. If you have any favorite Panoply podcasts, maybe now is a good time to check them on Patreon. https://t.co/66tkfKDM8w
— Hank Green – 13 DAYS LEFT! (@hankgreen) September 12, 2018
what a strange move to make a week after announcing a new slate of podcasts. I feel terrible for the entire editorial staff, that have been doing fantastic work. https://t.co/SKLlvYuSQc
— Joseph Fink (@PlanetofFinks) September 12, 2018
The news about @Panoply today is such a bummer. I was hired as the first producer at Panoply, and saw the network grow from zero shows to many shows. I came to the office to record a podcast the day after my wedding. Let’s just say, I was invested in the place. (1/2)
— Laura Mayer (@lrmayer) September 12, 2018
Your audio project/company/storytelling idea/podcast/soundtrack/movie/video game/choose your adventure/sonic oddity radio shows are about to get a lot better. The @Panoply All-Stars are ready for you. https://t.co/rPwd7TxA1o
— Efim Shapiro (@efimthedream) September 12, 2018
This past year my anger toward @Panoply was one of my main driving forces to succeed. Although the management suck there are a lot of good people there who are awesome and will move on to great new things and I look forward to seeing their what they do next. To freedom 👊🏾
— Renay (@RenayRich) September 12, 2018
They’ve been ruthlessly firing people the last 18 months, me being one of them now they’ve mass fired everyone else.
— Renay (@RenayRich) September 13, 2018
Real disappointed to hear @Panoply is folding its' content wing. Folks made some great shows + employed some of the best in the business, like @SamDingman + @KristenMeinzer to name but two. Audio recruiters, take note!
— Chris Berube (@ChrisBerube) September 12, 2018
Folks across the way at Slate made sure to note that their podcasts weren’t impacted by the move. Those include shows like The Gist, Slow Burn, Trumpcast, and the various Gabfests:
BTW, this has no bearing on the podcasts produced by @slate. We are still 100% in the game. The bad thing is that we no longer work in the same building with some of the best audio producers in the business. The editorial team at @Panoply is a force. https://t.co/gJo3uSbOoz
— Steve Lickteig (@slickteig) September 12, 2018
But there was some Slate/podcast news that was oddly timed with the Panoply shift: Slate Group editor-in-chief Jacob Weisberg announced he was leaving to start…a new podcast company with Malcolm Gladwell:
After 22 years I'm leaving Slate to launch a new audio company with Malcolm @Gladwell. We'll make Revisionist History, Broken Record, and lots more. Love to friends @slate & @panoply, the best people in digital media. Thanks to @oshy, GHCO and Don Graham for so much support.
— Jacob Weisberg (@jacobwe) September 12, 2018
I am trying to convince Jacob to name the new company after an obscure early 20th century Marxist theoretician. Stay tuned. https://t.co/IlRLnFKLKj
— Malcolm Gladwell (@Gladwell) September 12, 2018
The Gladwell show Revisionist History was a Panoply production. And Broken Record was announced as a Panoply production just last week.
With barely enough time to digest all that news, here comes more news! The Wall Street Journal reports that radio giant iHeartMedia — f.k.a. Clear Channel — is buying Stuff Media, producer of popular podcasts like How Stuff Works and Atlanta Monster, for $55 million.
News: The second-biggest podcast company is buying the fifth-largest podcast company for $55 million.https://t.co/ALHEsXtK9U
(By audience #s)— Ben Mullin (@BenMullin) September 13, 2018
“Podcast is to talk what streaming is to music,” said [iHeartMedia CEO Bob] Pittman in an interview. “It’s very critical to us and very strategic.”
As part of the agreement, Stuff Media CEO Conal Byrne will join iHeart and lead its entire podcast division…
Last month, public-radio companies PRX and PRI agreed to merge in a bid to capitalize on podcasts.
Mr. Pittman said the deal was aimed at beefing up iHeartMedia’s existing podcasting business, which already has an audience of more than 5.6 million monthly listeners, according to podcasting-analytics firm Podtrac.
The acquisition increases iHeart’s lead among a group of publishers in terms of audience, though it still trails No. 1 NPR. iHeart, which already hosts more than 750 original podcasts and carries over 20,000 on its app, is the top commercial podcast publisher.
(Note that there are plenty of problems with Podtrac’s rankings.)
Is this a classic case of legacy media (iHeart) buying into its digital disruptor (podcasting), à la the investments of companies like Comcast, Hearst, Time Warner investing into digital natives like BuzzFeed, Vox Media, and Mic? Or something less positive, a sign of further shakeouts in an industry that, while far more structured than in its loosey-goosey early days, is still relatively decentralized? We’ll find out eventually.