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The Podglomerate recently brought together some of the brightest minds in audio — from the founder of Lemonada to the president of iHeartPodcasts — to reflect on podcasting in 2024. While observations ranged from the transformative rise of AI to the importance of robust attribution tracking and analytics, there was a clear takeaway from the group: the impact and influence of podcasting during the recent presidential election.
Emerging media has always had a sizable role in election outcomes, from the “TV election” of 1960 to the “Twitter election” in 2012. And although podcasts have been around for 20 years, the 2024 race decidedly became the first “podcast election.” Which makes sense given the upward trajectory for listenership: According to Edison Research’s Infinite Dial 2024 report, 100 million Americans listen to at least one podcast every week, and a recent IAB report shows that Gen Z and millennials spend the majority of their time consuming audio content.
It’s easy to see why the best way to reach key voters this election cycle was through podcasts: All it took was one strategically placed interview on a massive podcast to hit millions of young and engaged and persuadable listeners. (As opposed to a few hour-long cable broadcast interviews on legacy media networks, whose set-in-their-ways audiences combined would still only account for a fraction of the high-target reach a single podcast interview could provide.) And in the final days on the campaign trail, that’s exactly why the candidates dropped by some of the biggest podcasts in the world to get out the vote, with Kamala Harris appearing on eight shows, including Call Her Daddy and The Breakfast Club, and Donald Trump sitting down for 20 podcast conversations with hosts like Joe Rogan and Lex Fridman. Based on the average reach of each show, Trump’s podcast appearances reached approximately 23.5 million Americans as compared to Harris’ 6.4 million.
If we learned anything in the aftermath of the 2024 presidential election, it’s that podcasting has evolved from a supplementary media channel into a primary battleground for political discourse and voter engagement. And in 2025, this transformation will continue to accelerate, reshaping how notable figures and organizations promote their ideas, how media outlets approach coverage, and how audiences consume information. Here’s how:
The “podcast election” may be over, but the real podcast work — to make real, meaningful, and engaging change — is just beginning.
Joni Deutsch is senior vice president of podcast marketing and audience development at The Podglomerate.
The Podglomerate recently brought together some of the brightest minds in audio — from the founder of Lemonada to the president of iHeartPodcasts — to reflect on podcasting in 2024. While observations ranged from the transformative rise of AI to the importance of robust attribution tracking and analytics, there was a clear takeaway from the group: the impact and influence of podcasting during the recent presidential election.
Emerging media has always had a sizable role in election outcomes, from the “TV election” of 1960 to the “Twitter election” in 2012. And although podcasts have been around for 20 years, the 2024 race decidedly became the first “podcast election.” Which makes sense given the upward trajectory for listenership: According to Edison Research’s Infinite Dial 2024 report, 100 million Americans listen to at least one podcast every week, and a recent IAB report shows that Gen Z and millennials spend the majority of their time consuming audio content.
It’s easy to see why the best way to reach key voters this election cycle was through podcasts: All it took was one strategically placed interview on a massive podcast to hit millions of young and engaged and persuadable listeners. (As opposed to a few hour-long cable broadcast interviews on legacy media networks, whose set-in-their-ways audiences combined would still only account for a fraction of the high-target reach a single podcast interview could provide.) And in the final days on the campaign trail, that’s exactly why the candidates dropped by some of the biggest podcasts in the world to get out the vote, with Kamala Harris appearing on eight shows, including Call Her Daddy and The Breakfast Club, and Donald Trump sitting down for 20 podcast conversations with hosts like Joe Rogan and Lex Fridman. Based on the average reach of each show, Trump’s podcast appearances reached approximately 23.5 million Americans as compared to Harris’ 6.4 million.
If we learned anything in the aftermath of the 2024 presidential election, it’s that podcasting has evolved from a supplementary media channel into a primary battleground for political discourse and voter engagement. And in 2025, this transformation will continue to accelerate, reshaping how notable figures and organizations promote their ideas, how media outlets approach coverage, and how audiences consume information. Here’s how:
The “podcast election” may be over, but the real podcast work — to make real, meaningful, and engaging change — is just beginning.
Joni Deutsch is senior vice president of podcast marketing and audience development at The Podglomerate.